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Henry Ford Net Worth?

I expected to find a mention of Henry Ford's net worth in this article (both nominal and inflation adjusted). By most estimates, Ford is one of the wealthiest men in history, so it seems an odd fact to omit. Modern wealthy individuals almost invariably have their net worths listed prominently in their info boxes. Why would Henry Ford be any different? Is he from too far back in history? Just a suggestion for anyone able to edit the article. Thank you. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 07:06, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Most sites agree that he owned around 200 billion(checked 7)(At his peak)

one site says 81.4 bil

another says 35 bil

and one says 1.2 bil

probably cause they are no adjusted for inflation???? 240F:79:57A:1:916C:FF30:1C8E:B371 (talk) 00:26, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His wealth consisted of sole ownership of Ford. How much was Ford stock worth?? There was no market--no one could buy or sell a single share because Ford had all the shares, so it's very hard to estimate the value. Rjensen (talk) 03:17, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Still there are probably some estimates out there. (In reliable sources.) SnailsSpace (talk) 04:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Sources used when Perfectly acceptable new sources are available

Sources 12 and 13 are rather old and I don't feel it necessary to maintain them, especially since their equivalents are much easier to read. Source 13 is still present in it's website as The Birth of Ford Motor Company, and the information remains the same as well (it's just been changed to a timeline style). Source 12 has an equivalent source from the Ford Corporate Website, as well as from Google Patents. Additionally, the first 2 sentences of the first paragraph on "Career" do not cite a source, and the only source cited for that paragraph (Source 12) does not contain the information listed. Source 13 does, however. I yet again implore we update our sources to more up to date and easily accessible ones. Asides from that, updating the early career to hold more information might be advised, as the Quadricycle is a landmark invention (as it marks the start of his foray into automobiles). The Ford Corporate Article goes into great detail and I suggest adding relevant information. I just created my account today for this vary reason, so I'm not certain how the process works and I certainly don't want to overstep my authority, however if I am allowed, I would gladly add said additions. PsiPiEditsArticles (talk) 01:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you haven't already, please make these changes :) Kingturtle = (talk) 20:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Ford (born July 30, 1863, Wayne county, Michigan, U.S.—died April 7, 1947, Dearborn, Michigan) American industrialist who revolutionized factory production with his assembly-line methods.

(Read Henry Ford’s 1926 Britannica essay on mass production.)

The 1909 Model. Ford spent most of his life making headlines, good, bad, but never indifferent. Celebrated as both a technological genius and a folk hero, Ford was the creative force behind an industry of unprecedented size and wealth that in only a few decades permanently changed the economic and social character of the United States. When young Ford left his father’s farm in 1879 for Detroit, only two out of eight Americans lived in cities; when he died at age 83, the proportion was five out of eight. Once Ford realized the tremendous part he and his Model T automobile had played in bringing about this change, he wanted nothing more than to reverse it, or at least to recapture the rural values of his boyhood. Henry Ford, then, is an apt symbol of the transition from an agricultural to an industrial America.

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 00:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Something is wrong...

Ford was born in 1863, yet the lede states, "Ford was born in a farmhouse in Springwells Township, Michigan, and left home at the age of 16 to find work in Detroit. It was a few years before this time that Ford first experienced automobiles," which means he experienced them "a few years before" 1879, despite the fact that they weren't invented by Carl Benz until 1886. Something is clearly wrong. I'm not sure if it's a remnant from a previous edit, perhaps when "a few years before this time" referred to another time, but whatever it is, it needs to be fixed? FillsHerTease (talk) 10:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this page is misleading an inaccurate ... Please rectify.

Can Somebody please correct the lies & propaganda on this the Henry ford wiki page please ...

Fist up Ford did not create the 8 hour work day as this page incorrectly claims as

This page is inaccurate, fine line between inaccuracy & misinformation.

The following paragraph is just wrong & misleading as Henry ford did not invent the 8 hour work day / 48 hour week. Ford also introduced a new, reduced workweek in 1926. The decision was made in 1922, when Ford and Crowther described it as six 8-hour days, giving a 48-hour week, but in 1926 it was announced as five 8-hour days, giving a 40-hour week. The program apparently started with Saturday being designated a workday, before becoming a day off sometime later. On May 1, 1926, the Ford Motor Company's factory workers switched to a five-day, 40-hour workweek, with the company's office workers making the transition the following August.'

Australia was the first country in the world to give workers an 8hR work day & the 48hr work week. ( 8 hrs work, 8 hours rest, hours play ) Australia introduced the 8 hr day & the 48hr week on 1 September 1873

8Hour Days & a 48-Hour Week

By Alison Painter

1 September 1873 48-Hour Week

On 1 September 1873 450 employees and 50 employers came together at a banquet to celebrate the first 48 hour week. This had been achieved through the efforts of building trade workers who had appointed a committee to work on an agreement acceptable to the industry. The first firm approached was one of the largest contracting firms in the city and after negotiations the agreement was signed. At the dinner, held in Whites Rooms, Sir Henry Ayers gave an address in which he said in part: The improvement in steam and water power ought to benefit the working classes and shorten their hours of toil. Thus they would be able to improve their minds and raise themselves socially and increase their political power. Labor began to be heard in parliament when in 1893 ten of its nominees were elected to the House of Assembly and it was then that the principle of an eight-hour day received legislative sanction. The celebration of this achievement is carried on with Labor Day holiday and parade. The 40-hour week was sanctioned in 1948. ‘How Labor Day was born’, The News, 11 October 1938, Newspaper Cuttings Book, Volume 2, p.124.

How Australia's world-first 8 hour day was achieved - ABC listen https://discoversouthaustraliashistory.org.au/chronology/september/1-september-1873-48-hour-week.shtml

The Origins of the Eight Hour Day | HACSU Tasmania [1]https://www.hacsu.org.au/HACSU/Everything_Else/Workplace_Issues___Information/the-origins-of-the-eight-hour-day/HACSU/Content/Workplace_Issues___Information/the-origins-of-the-eight-hour-day.aspx?hkey=a21502ae-d662-49a4-949c-50648093b0ab

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[2]https://atui.org.au/2021/04/21/1856-the-eight-hour-day-strike/

i just think Wikipedia does a lot of good allowing people to fill its pages with lies & propaganda does nothing but undermine Wikipedia as a legitimate source for accurate information.

Also can somebody please add this link to better reflect the fact Ford did not invent the Ute/utility/Truck it was Australia, And an Australian/'s

How the utility vehicle, once dismissed by Henry Ford as a 'kangaroo chaser', became an Australian classic By Tim Lee

[3]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-27/great-australian-ute-story-of-utility-vehicle-s-birth/100855458

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Ford celebrates Aussie ute’s 80th anniversary as the pioneer of the company’s global truck leadership ( 2014 )

[4]https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2014/02/25/ford-celebrates-aussie-ute-s-80th-anniversary.html

Cheers. 114.30.110.77 (talk) 03:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]